Re: FWN article on web font surveys

Le vendredi 21 novembre 2008 à 12:04 +0200, Nicu Buculei a écrit :
> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> >
> > To avoid repeating the very unpleasant 1h30 exchange I had with infra
> > yesterday after sending my message to fedora-news, I know my
> > limitations. I don't have the capabilities, time, or means to set up
> > servers in the stead of infra, rewrite apps in the stead of developpers,
> > write articles in the stead of article writers.
>
> Nicholas, this is what I can offer:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/Artwork
> It is very succinct, in the same way I cover the Art list. If someone
> else from FWN want to editorialize more on this topic, feel safe to
> delete my short paragraph.

Thank you for writing this. If someone has the time to complete it,
there is a lot of material in the web site referenced in the wiki page
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Linux_fonts_on_the_web_%E2%80%
94_CSS_and_font_surveys

> > There is not an army of me. There is one (overbooked). Please help.
>
> I see the traffic in the fonts list is low and a permanent column on FWN
> would be too much (this happen with a lot of other lists) so I won't
> invite someone from your SIG to join FWN, insead I subscribed myself to
> the list so if something worthy of reporting happens once in a while, I
> have the opportunity to talk about it.

Since all the day-to-day font info traffic was redirected to
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-fonts-bugs-list/ , the main
fedora-fonts-list has almost morphed in an announce list. Sometimes I
feel I'm writing to myself (even though I know some of the few
subscribers have key positions in upstream projects we depend on).

More FWN echo would certainly help attract new contributors.

> PS: I didn't took the fonts surveys myself, since I am not an ordinary
> user and have extra fonts installed and OTOH, as a designer, I stay with
> "safe fonts" for web pages (and won't change my mind about that easily).

Unfortunately too few people take the surveys, so even recently they
claimed most Linux users had access to Luxi and Liberation + DejaVu
didn't exist.

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Re: Developer News

I agree that there is a need for such information. Since Ubuntu's
users include those who are not developers, is it worth considering a
parallel board or list aimed at the direct impact to end users,
meaning non-developers?

Lionel Laratte

On Nov 21, 2008, at 5:28 AM, "Vid Ayer" <vid@svaksha.com> wrote:

> Folks
>
> What do you think ? Please discuss and I can ask folks to follow the
> thread here.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: James Westby <jw+debian@jameswestby.net>
> Date: Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:54 AM
> Subject: Developer News
> To: ubuntu-devel <ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>, ubuntu-motu
> <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> There has been concern addressed about keeping up with Ubuntu
> development without following every mailing list, being on
> IRC 24 hours a day, and reading -changes lists. In an effort
> to make that easier I would like to start something similar to
> Debian's Developer News.
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/DeveloperNews
>
> The idea is that small items are collected, and then periodically
> sent to debian-devel-announce as one mail.
>
> In initial discussion about this two proposals for how this should
> operate were made. You can read the proposals at
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/News
>
> The proposals are given at the end of this mail for those who are
> reading mail offline.
>
> I encourage you to read the proposals, and then make comments on
> the wiki page, either giving your support to one proposal, or giving
> your opinion. At the end of a discussion period the comments will
> be evaluated, and if there is a clear winner that will be the process
> we will use. I propose the MOTU meeting in 7 days, on the 28th Nov,
> as the end of the discussion period.
>
> I am happy for this to be added to the meeting agenda for discussion
> if desired. Otherwise if there is no clear winner then I will declare
> the proposal I didn't write as the winner.
>
> If anyone objects to the idea of aggregating news items for developers
> then feel free to add your comments to the page as well.
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
>
> Proposal 1: collect items on the wiki page
> This proposal follows that of Debian's DeveloperNews.
>
> This wiki page would be the place to collect the items. They would
> then
> be sent on when there were a few outstanding, or some amount of time
> had
> passed since the last mail.
>
> Anyone would be encouraged to submit items by adding the text to the
> page, and anyone could send the mail when needed.
>
> The wiki page would naturally form an archive of old items for
> people to
> easily browse.
>
> Proposal 2: Use the ubuntu-news-team mailing list
> As there is already a news team interested in collecting news items
> and
> sending them out, information of interest to developers could also be
> handled by this group.
>
> To avoid adding an undue extra burden on this team, it would be
> appropriate for developers interesting in administering the developer
> news to also participate in the news team. (note that the news team
> has
> yet to be asked about this).
>
> The advantage of such a system would be that the UWN, Fridge, and
> developer news announcements would all be sourced from the same base
> of
> information.
>
> The disadvantage of such a system would be a need for greater
> editorial
> review of presented items, and active filtering so that editors could
> best direct things to the audiences most likely to be interested.
>
> If this proposal is selected, this wiki page contains only the set of
> procedures for such postings, and does not contain an archive of
> previous postings.
>
> [No-one has approached the news-team about this proposal as yet]
>
>
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Re: Ubuntu Tamil Team - Intrepid Release Event - Erode

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 13:18, suresh <sureshigcar2007@gmail.com> wrote:

hello sir,

     i am suresh from chennai, i like the like the ubuntu linux os. i noticed that ubuntu has its own derivatives like kubuntu,ultimate edition etc.,.after seenig these flavours of linux i am very much intrested to see an ubuntu derivative with more tamil and tamil related softwares or related to india for example ubuntu tamil edition or ubuntu india edition.

To start with, a lot of tamil translations remain to be done:

https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+lang/ta

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Aditya Manthramurthy

Fwd: Developer News

Folks

What do you think ? Please discuss and I can ask folks to follow the
thread here.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: James Westby <jw+debian@jameswestby.net>
Date: Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:54 AM
Subject: Developer News
To: ubuntu-devel <ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>, ubuntu-motu
<ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>

Hi,

There has been concern addressed about keeping up with Ubuntu
development without following every mailing list, being on
IRC 24 hours a day, and reading -changes lists. In an effort
to make that easier I would like to start something similar to
Debian's Developer News.

http://wiki.debian.org/DeveloperNews

The idea is that small items are collected, and then periodically
sent to debian-devel-announce as one mail.

In initial discussion about this two proposals for how this should
operate were made. You can read the proposals at

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/News

The proposals are given at the end of this mail for those who are
reading mail offline.

I encourage you to read the proposals, and then make comments on
the wiki page, either giving your support to one proposal, or giving
your opinion. At the end of a discussion period the comments will
be evaluated, and if there is a clear winner that will be the process
we will use. I propose the MOTU meeting in 7 days, on the 28th Nov,
as the end of the discussion period.

I am happy for this to be added to the meeting agenda for discussion
if desired. Otherwise if there is no clear winner then I will declare
the proposal I didn't write as the winner.

If anyone objects to the idea of aggregating news items for developers
then feel free to add your comments to the page as well.

Thanks,

James

Proposal 1: collect items on the wiki page
This proposal follows that of Debian's DeveloperNews.

This wiki page would be the place to collect the items. They would then
be sent on when there were a few outstanding, or some amount of time had
passed since the last mail.

Anyone would be encouraged to submit items by adding the text to the
page, and anyone could send the mail when needed.

The wiki page would naturally form an archive of old items for people to
easily browse.

Proposal 2: Use the ubuntu-news-team mailing list
As there is already a news team interested in collecting news items and
sending them out, information of interest to developers could also be
handled by this group.

To avoid adding an undue extra burden on this team, it would be
appropriate for developers interesting in administering the developer
news to also participate in the news team. (note that the news team has
yet to be asked about this).

The advantage of such a system would be that the UWN, Fridge, and
developer news announcements would all be sourced from the same base of
information.

The disadvantage of such a system would be a need for greater editorial
review of presented items, and active filtering so that editors could
best direct things to the audiences most likely to be interested.

If this proposal is selected, this wiki page contains only the set of
procedures for such postings, and does not contain an archive of
previous postings.

[No-one has approached the news-team about this proposal as yet]

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Re: FWN article on web font surveys

Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>
> To avoid repeating the very unpleasant 1h30 exchange I had with infra
> yesterday after sending my message to fedora-news, I know my
> limitations. I don't have the capabilities, time, or means to set up
> servers in the stead of infra, rewrite apps in the stead of developpers,
> write articles in the stead of article writers.

Nicholas, this is what I can offer:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/Artwork
It is very succinct, in the same way I cover the Art list. If someone
else from FWN want to editorialize more on this topic, feel safe to
delete my short paragraph.

> There is not an army of me. There is one (overbooked). Please help.

I see the traffic in the fonts list is low and a permanent column on FWN
would be too much (this happen with a lot of other lists) so I won't
invite someone from your SIG to join FWN, insead I subscribed myself to
the list so if something worthy of reporting happens once in a while, I
have the opportunity to talk about it.

PS: I didn't took the fonts surveys myself, since I am not an ordinary
user and have extra fonts installed and OTOH, as a designer, I stay with
"safe fonts" for web pages (and won't change my mind about that easily).

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Re: FWN article on web font surveys

Hi Nicu,

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

To avoid repeating the very unpleasant 1h30 exchange I had with infra
yesterday after sending my message to fedora-news, I know my
limitations. I don't have the capabilities, time, or means to set up
servers in the stead of infra, rewrite apps in the stead of developpers,
write articles in the stead of article writers.

There is not an army of me. There is one (overbooked). Please help.

--
Nicolas Mailhot

Ubuntu Tamil Team - Intrepid Release Event - Erode

hello sir,

     i am suresh from chennai, i like the like the ubuntu linux os. i noticed that ubuntu has its own derivatives like kubuntu,ultimate edition etc.,.after seenig these flavours of linux i am very much intrested to see an ubuntu derivative with more tamil and tamil related softwares or related to india for example ubuntu tamil edition or ubuntu india edition.

Re: FWN article on web font surveys

Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Hi,

Hi,

> I'd like someone at FWN to write a simple article asking our users to
> participate in the online font surveys out there on Fedora 10 release
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Linux_fonts_on_the_web_—
> _CSS_and_font_surveys
[...]
> Sadly I doubt my English is simple and compelling enough for the task.

Many of us writing for FWN do not have English as a native language, we
cover our topics because we are involved in those areas and care about them.

I recommend you to write the beas as you can and do as myself, rely on
our friendly editors to make it better for publishing.

PS: I will write my own beat (Art) later today, so if you have something
*fast* you can put the fonts part in it (credited with your name, of
course), since fonts and art are somewhat related.

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